MEDITATION
THE SECRET OF SECRET VOL2
This very world the paradise
MEDITATION
THE SECRET OF SECRET VOL2
This very world the paradise
The first question:
Question 1
YOUR DANCING MEDITATIONS SEEM TO BE BRINGING FORTH AN OVERWHELMING
SENSUOUSNESS. ALL THAT HAS NOT BEEN TAKEN, ALL THAT HAS NOT BEEN GIVEN IS
REVEALED THEN.... THE PLAY OF NATURE ON MY WHOLE BEING, ALL THE BEAUTY THAT
I BEHOLD, ALL THE MUSIC THAT ENCHANTS MY EARS AND MY SOUL, ALL SEEM TO BE
EXPRESSED IN VOLUPTUOUSNESS. EVEN WHEN I CLOSE MY EYES IN SILENT SITTING,
THIS TANGIBLE PRESENCE IS FELT.
I
WELCOME AND ENJOY THIS GROWING SENSITIVITY AND 'ORGASMIC' AFFAIR WITH LIFE.
I CANNOT IMAGINE GOD DESCENDING UPON ME BUT AS THE ULTIMATE LOVER WHEN I
WILL BE TURNED INSIDE OUT, TOTALLY OPEN AND AS READABLE AS THE GLORIOUS
MOON.
CAN I TRUST THIS FEELING? AND IS IT OF ANY MEANING WITH REGARD TO BEING
WITH YOU AND GROWING THROUGH YOU?
I HAVE NOT BEEN BLESSED WITH TRANSCENDENTAL EXPERIENCES. ALL I KNOW AND ALL
THAT SEEMS TO BE MY LOT TO KNOW IS THIS JOY, EVER-INCREASING AND FRESH, TO
BE PART OF THE COSMIC PLAY AND TO BE ABLE TO TRANSMUTE IT IN MY DAILY LIVING
-- IN ALL KINDS OF CREATIVE FASHIONS, FROM COOKING TO DANCING AND PRAYING.
CAN YOU PLEASE ADVISE ME.
Tanmaya, this is what I am teaching here. I don't teach the transcendental,
I teach the immanent -- because the immanent is the transcendental. I don't
teach the ultimate, I teach the immediate -- because the immediate is the
body of the ultimate. If you enter into the immediate you will find the
ultimate pulsating there. The ultimate is the heartbeat of the immediate.
This is my fundamental teaching: that there is no division between this and
that. That is contained in this, the other shore is contained in this shore.
You need not go anywhere. If you can be joyous, flowing, alive, sensitive,
orgasmic, THIS very shore immediately is transformed into the other shore...
THIS very world the paradise, THIS very body the Buddha.
Remember it, because down the ages religions have been teaching a dichotomy
between this and that. Religions have been teaching a kind of schizophrenia,
a split, between the body and the soul, between the lower and the higher,
between the outer and the inner, and so on and so forth.
All divisions are false; reality is one. There is nothing lower and nothing
higher, and there is nothing outer, nothing inner. There is no body, no
soul. It is all one. The body is the soul visible, and the soul is the body
invisible. There is no creator other than this very creation. The creator
and the creation are not separated, they are as one as the dancer and the
dance. They cannot exist apart, they can only exist as one. You cannot take
the dancer apart from his dance; if you take him, he is no more a dancer.
You cannot take the dance apart from the dancer, there is no possibility.
They are utterly one, expressions of the same energy, the same phenomenon.
So what is happening to you, Tanmaya, is EXACTLY what should happen. This
is what I am desiring, longing, praying for you. This is the way you are
coming closer and closer to me. Forget all about transcendental experiences.
All those so-called transcendental experiences are nothing but bullshit.
These are the real experiences: this sensitivity that is growing in you,
this receptivity that is becoming deeper and deeper every moment, this joy
of existence, of life, of being, of love.
Don't think of seeing some spiritual visions -- God sitting on a golden
throne. Those are all fantasies of starved minds, of mediocre minds. Don't
think about something extraordinary, because the extraordinary is desired
only by the very ordinary. That is the desire of the inferior. If you are
intelligent, if you are alert, the ordinary becomes the extraordinary. And
that is the magic I teach you.
I am giving you an alchemy. Yes, cooking can become prayer; only then are
you religious. If cooking can become prayer, only then... if cleaning the
floor can become meditation, only then....
This ordinary life is ordinary only because you are dull, because you are
asleep, because you are thick. It is ordinary only because you don't have
perception to see its depth. You can't see the colors of life and the
beautiful forms of life and the eternal benediction that goes on showering
each moment of it. It is a continuum. Because you can't see the beauty of a
rising sun and you can't see the beauty of the stars in the night, and
because you can't see the beauty of human eyes, hence out of this poverty
arises the desire for some transcendental experience -- experiencing God,
heaven, paradise, experiencing the arousal of the serpent power in your
spine. Experiencing these things or desiring to experience these things is
all mind-games. The true religion is always of the here and the now.
Yes, that's what I want you to become, sensuous, because if you are not
sensuous you can never be spiritual. If you cannot enjoy the small things of
life, if you cannot sip your tea with celebration, you are not religious at
all. You can go to Kaaba or to Jerusalem or you can go to Kashi; you will
never be religious anywhere if you cannot sip tea with utter gratitude. And
the aroma of the tea, and the beautiful smell that is arising -- if you
cannot feel it, if you are not sensuous enough to feel it, you will not be
able to feel God....
... Because God is the center of everything.
God is not the original cause and God is not the ultimate goal; God is the
center of every condition that you come across every moment of your life.
God is the center of the woman you have fallen in love with, God is the
center of the man you have become friendly with. God is the center of
everything that you come across. God means the center, and the world means
the periphery, the circumference. And they are never separate. And the
center is hidden in the circumference.
To be sensuous means to become aware of the circumference, and to be
spiritual means to become aware of the center. Sensuousness is the beginning
of spirituality.
Become more and more sensuous; that is the way of being alive.
But your old religions have been teaching you just the opposite: they teach
you a kind of bodily death, they teach you to make your body more and more
insensitive. That is a cheap trick: make your body more and more cold so
that you can pretend a kind of aloofness, so that you can say, "Nothing
affects me." Because you are carrying a dull and dead body around yourself,
naturally nothing affects you, but this is not growth.
Real growth is: you are open, vulnerable, you are affected by everything
AND YET nothing affects you. You are in the midst of situations and yet not
part of them. You are on the circumference of everything and yet the center
is never forgotten.
You say, "Your dancing meditation seems to be bringing forth an
overwhelming sensuousness."
Tanmaya, you are blessed. Allow it, don't become afraid, and don't let your
old conditionings interfere.
That's why I teach dance, I teach music, I teach singing. I want your body
to vibrate at the optimum, I want your body to become a pulsating, streaming
phenomenon; not a stagnant pool, but a running, rushing river to the ocean.
"All that has not been taken, all that has not been given is revealed
then.... "
Yes, when you are sensuous God is available. All the mysteries are close
by, because that is the only way to know the mysterious.
Sensuousness means you are open, your doors are open, you are ready to
throb with existence. If a bird starts singing, the sensuous person
immediately feels the song echoed in his deepest core of being. The
non-sensuous person does not hear it at all, or maybe it is just a noise
somewhere. It does not penetrate his heart. A cuckoo starts calling -- a
sensuous person starts feeling as if the cuckoo is not calling from some
faraway mango grove, but from deep down within his own soul. It becomes his
own call, it becomes his own longing for the divine, his own longing for the
beloved. In that moment the observer and the observed are one. Seeing a
beautiful flower bloom, the sensuous person blooms with it, becomes a flower
with it.
The sensuous person is liquid, flowing, fluid. Each experience, and he
becomes it. Seeing a sunset, he is the sunset. Seeing a night, a dark night,
beautiful silent darkness, he becomes the darkness. In the morning he
becomes the light.
He is ALL that life is. He tastes life from every nook and comer. Hence he
becomes rich; this is real richness. Listening to music he is music,
listening to the sound of water he becomes that sound. And when the wind
passes through a bamboo grove, and the cracking bamboos... he is not far
away from them. He is amidst them, one of them -- he is a bamboo.
A Zen Master told one of his. disciples who wanted to paint bamboos, "Go
and first become a bamboo."
He was an accomplished painter, he had passed all the art examinations, and
with distinction. His name had already started becoming famous. And the
Master said, "You go to the forest, live with the bamboos for a few years,
become a bamboo. And the day you can become a bamboo come back and paint,
not before it. How can you paint a bamboo if you have not known what a
bamboo feels like from within? You can paint a bamboo from the outside, but
that is just a photograph."
And that is the difference between photography and painting. A photograph
can never be a painting. Howsoever skillfully, artfully done, it remains
only the reflection of the circumference of the bamboo. No camera can enter
into the soul.
When for the first time photography was developed, a great fear arose in
the world of painting that maybe now painting would lose its old beauty and
its old pedestal; because photography would be developed more and more every
day and soon it would fulfill its requirement. That fear was absolutely
unbased. In fact after the invention of the camera, photography has
developed tremendously, but simultaneously painting has learned new
dimensions, new visions, new perceptions. Painting has become richer; it had
to become. Before the invention of the camera the painter was functioning as
a camera.
... The Master said, "You go to the forest." And the disciple went, and for
three years he remained in the forest, being with the bamboos in all kinds
of climates. Because when it is raining the bamboo has one joy, and when it
is windy the bamboo has a different mood, and when it is sunny, of course
everything changes in the being of the bamboo. And when a cuckoo comes into
the bamboo grove and starts calling, the bamboos are silent and responsive.
He had to be there for three years.
And then it happened, one day it happened: sitting by the side of the
bamboos, he forgot who he was. And the wind started blowing and he started
swaying -- like a bamboo! Only later on did he remember that for a long time
he had not been a man. He had entered into the soul of the bamboo, then he
painted the bamboos.
Those bamboos certainly have a totally different quality which no
photograph can ever have. Photographs can be beautiful, but dead. That
painting is alive because it shows the soul of the bamboo in all its moods,
in all its richness, in all its climates. Sadness is there, and joy is
there, and agony is there, and ecstasy is there, and all that a bamboo
knows, the whole biography of a bamboo is there.
To be sensuous is to be available to the mysteries of life. Become more and
more sensuous, and drop all condemnation. Let your body become just a door.
All your senses should become clear doors with no hindrances, so when you
hear you become the music, and when you see you become the light, when you
touch you become that which you have touched.
Tanmaya, you say, "I welcome and enjoy this growing sensitivity and
'orgasmic' affair with life. I cannot imagine God descending upon me but as
the ultimate lover when I will be turned inside out, totally open and as
readable as the glorious moon."
You have understood me rightly; this is my message in short: God comes
always as a lover. God is the immediate and the ultimate Beloved. And if you
know God in some other way, remember, that God is your mind creation, it is
not the true God.
And because religions arose around untrue gods they have not been able to
help humanity to become more loving. On the contrary, they have filled the
whole world with hatred, with violence. The true religion can only conceive
of God as the Beloved.
You are on the right track. Your past will pull you back: the priests, the
parents, the conditionings in your mind, will pull you back. Beware. Drop
all that. TRUST this growing sensitivity, this orgasmic openness. This is
the door to the divine. Trust it, and go headlong with it.
The second question:
Question 2
WHEN YOU SAY GOOD, DOES IT MEAN 'GOOD' OR DOES IT SOMETIMES MEAN 'DON'T
BOTHER ME WITH YOUR NONSENSE'?
Rudra, first meditate on this small anecdote:
I recall the time a man gave a speech at a Rotary Club on the subject of
journalism and journalists. It is one of the tenets of the Rotarians that
they may not swear or use cuss-words. But the speaker, not being a Rotarian
himself, did not know this, and in his talk he used a profanity he should
not have used in that particular hall to that particular audience. At the
end of the meeting a local minister in the audience approached the speaker
and dressed him down for having used the language he did. The speaker
apologized profusely, and the minister went on about how Rotarians, to say
nothing of the church, strongly disapproved of bad language. He then walked
away. He got about ten feet down the corridor, then turned around and
approached the speaker again. "Off the record," he said, "and just between
us, any time you want to call a journalist a sonofabitch, it is okay with
me."
So on the record, 'good' simply means good. Off the record, it means 'don't
bother me with your nonsense'.
The third question:
Question 3
WATCHING THE ENERGY CHANGES THAT ARE CONSTANTLY HAPPENING IN ME, SUDDENLY
THE QUESTION ARISES: WHAT IS THAT WHICH IS WATCHING AND IN WHAT SENSE IS IT
DIFFERENT FROM THE OBSERVED ENERGY?
Kosha, this is a beautiful space to enter into, when the question arises
for the first time: What is the observed and who is the observer? This is a
beautiful space to enter into -- when the question becomes relevant.
Now, on each step, you will start losing the duality of the observer and
the observed. The observer and the observed, in the ultimate sense, in
reality, are one. They are two only because we have not yet been capable of
seeing the One.
Remember THE SECRET OF THE GOLDEN FLOWER. It says: Tao is one; then it
divides itself into two, yin and yang, darkness and light, life and death.
But the reality is One. It looks like two; it looks like two because we see
it through the prism of the mind. The twoness of it is a creation of our
minds, it is not there.
It is just like when on a full moon night you look at the moon and then
press your eyelid -- and suddenly you see two moons. And you know the moon
is one. But go on pressing the eye -- and you know perfectly well the moon
is one -- and now you can see two moons.
That's exactly what is happening. Mind is creating duality, because mind
cannot conceive the One. There is an intrinsic impossibility for the mind to
conceive the One. Try to understand why the mind cannot conceive the One.
Mind needs distinctions; the One is distinctionless. The whole purpose of
the mind is to demark things. The whole purpose of the mind is to
particularize things -- this is a woman and that is a man, this is a friend
and that is an enemy, this is food and this is just stone, this is a chair
and that is a table, this is the door and this is the wall. This is the
function of the mind: the whole purpose of the mind is to make distinctions.
It is very utilitarian; it has to be used.
But in the ultimate sense, it becomes the barrier. That which is a help on
the circumference becomes a hindrance at the center.
Mind has no truth, but only utility; just as a child is born: no child
brings a label with himself, a nameplate or anything. He simply comes. You
don't ask him, "Who are you, and what is your name, and from where are you
coming?" The child will simply look at you and will think you are stupid:
"What nonsense you are talking!" You start giving him a name, an identity.
And you know that name is false, although useful, but false; untrue, but
utilitarian. He will need that name.
There are millions of people. If he falls in love with a woman and she
wants to write a letter to him, how is she supposed to write a letter to a
man who has no name? How can the letter be delivered to him?
It has utility in the world. We give him a name and slowly, slowly we
completely forget that the name is just a utilitarian device, it has no
truth about it. You can change the name. You can go to the court, declare
that you drop your old name and you will be a new name. You can change as
many times as you want.
Exactly like that, mind is a device, a natural device to help you function
in the world, to find you things. If you drop the mind, all is blurred into
one reality. Then it will not be possible to make any distinction between
what is a marshmallow and what is a pillow. You may start sleeping with the
marshmallow underneath your head and you may start eating the pillow.
So I am not saying mind is not useful. Mind is useful, but its very
usefulness is based on creating distinctions.
But when you start moving in meditation, you are moving beyond mind. You
are moving beyond utility into truth. Then you are trying to see that which
is, not that which is useful. Then slowly, slowly the duality will
disappear.
And, Kosha, this is just on the threshold -- when the observer and the
observed disappear. And I have been watching you, Kosha; you have been
growing so beautifully.
Kosha is a well-educated woman. She is a PH.D., although here she just
cleans the toilets. But that has been of immense help; PH.D.s need that.
Otherwise they remain hung-up in the head. It has been a device.
Deliberately, I have put Kosha into cleaning work, and she has proved really
beautiful. She has completely forgotten her PH.D., her education, her
career, her name, etcetera -- completely forgotten. She has just become
involved in the work that has been given to her utterly, totally.
And that utterness, that totalness, is bringing this great fruit into her
being.
Now this is not a philosophical question that she is asking. Philosophy has
disappeared from her mind. Now this is an experience, something existential.
Now she is really faced with a problem: Who is the observer and who is the
observed?
Now you will have to drop that idea also. Now the observer will be the
observed. Now there will be no distinction between the two: the seer will be
the seen and the knower will be the known and the lover will be the beloved.
It is very strange when for the first time it starts happening -- it blurs
you, your whole mind structure simply shatters. It looks almost as if you
are going mad -- or what? Just think: seeing a bamboo, and you forget who is
the bamboo and who is the seer -- it will look insane. And when you come
back into your normal, utilitarian world, you will become suspicious,
distrustful, doubting: "What is happening? This is dangerous! How can I be
the bamboo?" But this is true.
We are all part of one reality. I am in my right hand, I am in my left
hand. I am in my body, but my body is joined with the earth and the sun and
the moon. We are all joined together, interlinked. Nobody is independent, we
are all interdependent.
When slowly, slowly the mind takes a leap from you -- you say goodbye to
the mind and the no-mind opens its infinity -- then you are the bamboo, then
you are in the bamboo, as the bamboo. The observer has become the observed.
And the tremendous benediction of it! And the great transformation that
comes through it!
And this will be happening, Kosha, more and more. You have earned it. Don't
be afraid! It will appear like insanity and the mind will condemn it like
insanity.
This is the point when you have to listen to the Master, not to the mind. I
say to you: go ahead. You have risked a lot; now risk a little more. Let
this distinction also disappear, and with its disappearance, the satori...
The fourth question:
Question 4
CANNOT THE TEACHING OF BEING HERENOW BE SOMETIMES DANGEROUS IN THE HANDS OF
FOOLS OF COURSE?
In the hands of the fools anything can be dangerous, anything whatever! The
Koran is dangerous, the Bible is dangerous, the Gita is dangerous -- and you
know it. The whole history is full of proofs. Such beautiful statements, so
crystal-clear, but in the hands of the fools something goes wrong -- nectar
becomes poison.
And just the reverse is the case: if you are intelligent, wise, even poison
becomes medicine.
One day a man came to me. He was very worried because he had been following
J. Krishnamurti for almost twenty years. Then he had a chance, accidentally,
to fly with Krishnamurti from Delhi to Bombay.
And then he saw... and what he saw shocked him, shook him completely. He
could not sleep. Why had he wasted time with this man for twenty years?
So he came to me and said, "What should I do now? My twenty years
wasted!..."
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I said, "What actually has happened?" He said,
"I saw him reading a detective novel!"
I said, "In the hands of J. Krishnamurti a detective novel becomes a Koran.
And in your hands, a Koran becomes just a detective novel."
It depends. It all depends on you.
I have heard...
A man asked his psychoanalyst after many days of psychoanalysis... nothing
was happening. The psychoanalyst was getting worried, the man was also
getting worried. He was paying so much and nothing was coming out of it.
Finally he blurted out. He said, "I think the real problem is not my mind,
the real problem is the people with whom I work -- my manager, my treasurer,
the clerks. The people with whom I work are the real problem. So just
psychoanalyzing MY mind is not going to help."
The psychoanalyst asked, "What exactly is the problem with the people you
work with?"
He said, "They are all utterly lazy. Nobody wants to work, they all go on
postponing."
The psychoanalyst said, "You do one thing: you make beautiful boards. Write
on the boards in capital letters,'Do it now! Tomorrow never comes! Tomorrow
is death, life is today.' And put this board everywhere in your office, so
wherever they look they will find it. This will have some impact on them."
After the third day the psychiatrist phoned his patient. His wife was on
the phone and she said, "He is in the hospital because he has been beaten
badly by his people."
He said, "Why?"
The woman said, "I think it is because of your advice."
So he rushed to the hospital. The man was really in pain, fractured all
over the body.
He asked, "What happened?"
The man said, "It is you and your stupid advice. The treasurer immediately
escaped with all the cash -- 'Do it now! Tomorrow never comes! Tomorrow is
death!' He simply wrote a note: 'I have been thinking of escaping with the
cash for many years, but if it is so -- tomorrow is death -- then this is
the time.' My manager has escaped, eloped with my typist. And the other
workers just jumped upon me and started beating me. They said, 'We had
always wanted to beat you, and we were postponing."'
You ask me, "Cannot the teaching of being herenow sometimes be dangerous?"
It can be if you work in such an office, or if you have such people inside
your head.
I have heard...
At the time of the Wilson government in England, George Brown -- always
drunk -- is Foreign Secretary. A reception is held on the visit of the
French President, Pompidou.
Madame Pompidou is seated next to Brown, who starts the conversation
drunkenly. "What do you want out of life, Madame?"
Madame Pompidou replies, "All I want is 'a... ppin... ess." She added as
she felt Brown's hand travelling up her thigh, "But not before the soup."
I teach you to be herenow, but you will have to take care of many things --
'not before the soup'!
To be herenow needs great intelligence. It is not the message for the
stupid, for the mediocre. When I say to you to be herenow I am giving great
respect to your intelligence. This is my way of showing respect towards you.
You have to be worthy of it.
To be herenow means to be very alert, aware, conscious, so that this moment
is no more burdened with past, no more burdened with future; so this moment
is unburdened of all garbage and is clear, pure, innocent. And in that
innocence you will find the door into God.
But remember always: you can turn, change the meaning, impose your own
ideas on the greatest of teachings and destroy them. All depends on you.
The fifth question:
Question 5
WHY IS FEMININE ENERGY THE 'DARKNESS' PRINCIPLE? DOES THIS MEAN THAT THERE
IS SUPPOSED TO BE SOMETHING SINISTER ABOUT IT? THE AUTHOR OF The Secret of
the Golden Flower SEEMS A LITTLE MALE CHAUVINISTIC SOMETIMES.
The question is from Ma Ananda Prem.
Ananda Prem, you are a female chauvinist! Rather than thinking about the
author of THE SECRET OF THE GOLDEN FLOWER, think about yourself.
Master Lu-tsu is saying something just factual. Who has given you the idea
that darkness symbolizes something sinister? That is your idea! Darkness is
as beautiful as light, equally as beautiful and valuable as light. Do you
think night has less value than the day? In fact, it may have more value
than the day, but not less. It is the day that tires you, exhausts you; it
is the night that rejuvenates you, replenishes you. It is the day that kills
you, it is the night that refreshes you again, prepares you for tomorrow,
keeps you young.
What is sinister in darkness? Darkness is vast. Light is never so vast.
Light is always limited, darkness has no limitations. Light is shallow,
darkness has depth.
That's why we have not painted Krishna as white but as black. One of his
names is Shyam; 'shyam' means the black one. Why? -- just to give a sense of
depth. Whiteness is a little shallow.
Hence in the West, so much craze for a suntan, because the white face does
not give the feeling of depth. Lying on the sun-beach under the sun, making
it a little brown, and it starts having a depth and a beauty of its own.
And darkness is cool, and darkness makes you feel alone. It is very
meditative. You cannot sleep in the light, you need darkness to sleep. And
sleep and SAMADHI are very similar. In darkness you can enter into no-mind
very easily.
Who has given you the idea, Ananda Prem, that darkness is sinister? It must
be your own female chauvinistic mind. Nothing is wrong in darkness. Darkness
is the energy of the earth and light is the energy of the sky. And the
meeting of the earth and the sky is the whole secret of existence.
Man is a meeting of the earth and the sky, and they both have to be in
balance. If your light and darkness principle are balanced, if your male and
female principles are in deep harmony, you will attain to One.
Lu-tsu is simply stating a fact. The woman is more restful than man. Light
is the principle of restlessness. That's why in the morning as the sun rises
you have to awake, you cannot rest anymore. As the sun sets you start
feeling sleepy; now you are getting ready to rest, fall into tremendously
deep oblivion.
Light will bring you back to the circumference, to the day-today affairs,
the routine world. Darkness takes you far far away from this world. You
forget all the turmoil and the anxiety and the worry and the hurry.
The woman has the same quality of giving you rest. If you love a woman,
just being with her is restful.
Only a person who has come to meet with his inner woman can live without a
woman. Then there is no necessity, because he is rested, he has found an
inner shelter. But till you find an inner shelter, you will have to find an
outer shelter; it is absolutely necessary. The woman gives you rest, hence
Lu-tsu calls her dark.
The moment you are in the embrace of your woman or in her lap, you are
again a child and she is your mother She may be your wife, but she again
becomes your mother. Again she overwhelms you like darkness. She makes you
cool, she takes away all the heat that has been generated by the day. It is
easier to fall in deep sleep with your woman. She is the principle of the
dark. And the woman is as vast as darkness.
Man is very particular, woman is universal. That's why man is tired sooner;
the woman has more capacity to resist. Women live longer than men. Women
suffer less from illnesses than men. Women go mad less than men. Women
commit suicide less than men. She is restful, cool, calm and collected, and
she has that vastness.
The woman is always generous. She gives and does not ask in return. She
protects, she nourishes not only the child: she nurses the child with her
milk, she nurses her beloved with love -- which is a higher-value food,
which is a deeper food, a nourishment for the soul.
Who has given you, Ananda Prem, the idea that darkness is sinister? There
is nothing sinister. But I can understand from where this idea must be
coming.
The Western mind has lived on duality and has never been able to penetrate
to the One. The Jewish heritage is of duality, and because of Judaism,
Christianity and Islam also became dualistic. Ananda Prem carries a Jewish
heritage.
The Jewish heritage is that God is good; but then where to put all the
badness that you come across in the world? So as a scapegoat the Devil has
been created. The Devil is all bad, God is all good -- to protect God from
badness. Otherwise you will have to put badness somewhere or other. And if
there is only one God, that means good and bad both are contained in Him.
Then He is both.
Jews have never been that courageous. They were afraid to put good and bad
both in the same God, so the only possible way out was to create two Gods, a
God of good and a God of bad. Hence the God-and-the-Devil duality.
Then God is light and the Devil is dark. Then the Devil is always painted
as dark, animal-like, with horns and a tail and hooves, and with a dark
color, like a dark night, sinister. That's from where Ananda Prem gets the
idea of darkness being sinister.
And the same has penetrated into Christianity and into Islam. Both these
religions are by-products of Judaism.
In the world, there have really been only two religions, Judaism and
Hinduism. Christianity and Islam belong to the Judaic tradition. Jainism and
Buddhism belong to the Hindu world, the Hindu vision.
The Hindu vision is totally different. And in the Hindu vision there is no
Devil. It is non-dual; God is both. God HAS to be both. But both are so
balanced in God that they cancel each other, and God is beyond. God is BOTH;
that's why God is beyond, because they cancel each other.
This is the Eastern concept of the transcendental, the non-dual. So you
will see Eastern gods painted black and you will see Eastern goddesses
looking very devilish. Just think of Kali, the Mother, with a garland of
human skulls! No Jew can conceive that God is God with human skulls... and
with a fresh head just recently cut, blood dripping, in her hand... and not
only that, she is dancing on the chest of her husband... must be a real
woman! And with all this, and a sword in hand, she is so beautiful, so
utterly beautiful. Look into her eyes -- the tremendous depth and beauty and
compassion and love and warmth.
Now the Western mind is simply baffled: "What nonsense is this? If this
woman is God then who is the Devil?" They cannot understand, because we have
been trying to bring both the polarities together. They have both been
brought absolutely together in Mother Kali. 'Kali' means the black. And the
word LEAL IS very significant: it means three things. First, it means black;
second, it means time; third, it means death. The Mother Kali represents all
these three things. She is time, the eternal movement of time, this infinite
movement, change, flux, and she is death too. And she is black.... And yet,
look deep into her and see the beauty and the benediction and the compassion
and the love and the warmth. She is life and she is death. She is black AND
she is white. She is the meeting of the polar opposites.
Lu-tsu is not a male chauvinist. Be a little more careful when you start
talking about people like Lu-tsu. Be a little more alert. People like Lu-tsu
or Lao Tzu or Chuang Tzu, or Buddha or Krishna or Christ are neither men nor
women. They have gone, gone beyond. They have transcended all dualities. And
still, both dualities are in them, but so balanced, in such harmony -- sound
and silence in such harmony -- that great music is created; black and white
in such harmony that the whole panorama of existence is created; life and
death in such harmony, in such deep embrace, that eternity arises out of it.
The sixth question:
Question 6
OSHO, DO YOU BELIEVE IN THE SECOND COMING OF CHRIST?
And who do you think I am?
Christ is not a person, Christ is a state of consciousness. There have been
Christs before Jesus, there have been Christs after Jesus. Jesus is only one
of the Christs. Buddha is a Christ, Mahavir is a Christ, Lu-tsu is a Christ,
Zarathustra is a Christ. Christ simply means the ultimate state of
consciousness; it is equivalent to Buddha.
Buddha is not the name of any person, it is a happening. So is Christ -- it
is not Jesus' name! His name was Jesus. One day Jesus disappeared and the
Christ-consciousness descended IN him. He was no more the ego, he became the
vehicle of the whole. He could say, "I and my Father in heaven are one."
This is Christ-consciousness; it has nothing to do with Jesus.
If you are waiting for Jesus' second coming, then you are waiting in vain;
but if you are waiting for Christ's coming, Christ has always been coming.
Christ is in front of you, you are listening to him -- not to Jesus,
certainly, not to Gautama Siddhartha, certainly. But you are facing a
Buddha, just as you are facing a Christ.
You remind me...
I have heard of an editor of an upstate small-town newspaper. For years he
had cherished a set of old-fashioned wooden scarhead type of some
sixty-point size. On more than one occasion his assistants had tried to
induce him to use it, but he always firmly vetoed the idea.
One summer the old man went away for a short fishing trip. In his absence a
cyclone struck the town, tore the steeple off the church, unroofed several
houses, sucked a couple of wells dry, and scattered a few barns around. No
bigger catastrophe had hit the town in years. So, figuring, "Now is our
chance," his assistants got down the sixty-point type from the shelf and set
up a sensational front-page headline with it.
Two days later the editor came storming into the office. "Great
Jehosaphat!" he shouted. "What do you mean by taking down that type for a
cyclone? All These Years I Have Been Saving That Type For The Second Coming
Of Christ!"
Then you will be waiting in vain.
Don't think that Christ and Jesus are synonymous. That's where the error
lies in two thousand years of the Christian Church. Many have come in this
time -- this has been a long period -- many have come out of the Christian
fold, and a few have come even in the Christian fold itself. Meister Eckhart
was a Christ, so was Jakob Boehme, so was Saint Francis. These were in the
same fold, but still Christianity missed them because they were waiting for
Jesus -- the same body, the same form. That is utter nonsense. It is not
going to happen again. Jesus cannot be repeated.
To repeat Jesus you will have to repeat the whole history that preceded
Jesus, and that is impossible. Jesus cannot be repeated, because for Jesus
to be here you will need Mariam, you will need Joseph the Carpenter, you
will need the two-thousand-year-old world of Jerusalem. You will need Herod
the King, and Pontius Pilate the Governor General. You will need the whole
structure, because Jesus came as part of it. No, Jesus cannot be repeated;
there is no way. But Christ can descend, Christ can descend in anybody.
When John the Baptist baptized Jesus in the River Jordan, the story says a
great white dove came from heaven, out of the blue -- nobody had seen such
whiteness, such purity -- and he descended into Jesus and disappeared into
Jesus.
This is just symbolic. This is symbolic of Christhood: Jesus became
enlightened... something of the beyond.... As Master Lu-tsu would like to
say, "Heaven penetrated the earth." These are just symbols, metaphors: a
white dove descending from heaven, entering into Jesus and disappearing. And
since that moment Jesus is no longer Jesus, he is Christ. The same happened
to Buddha under the bodhi tree: something descended in him, and after that
he was not Gautama Siddhartha, he was the Buddha.
Don't wait for Jesus' coming. And if you wait for Jesus' coming you will be
wasting your time. He is not going to come, he cannot come. But if you are
waiting for Christ's coming then there is no need to wait -- Christ is
already here! And those who have waited for Christ -- not for the particular
form, but the consciousness, the essence of it -- have always found Christ
somewhere or other. Thousands of Masters have existed in the same
consciousness.
It is said...
A Christian missionary went to see a Zen Master. The old Zen Master had
never heard of Christ. He lived in a faraway mountain cave. The missionary
really took much trouble in reaching there; it was a hard and arduous
journey, hazardous and dangerous too. He carried his Bible -- he wanted to
convert the old Master because his name was all over the country, and
millions loved him and travelled to his cave.
So he went there and he told the Master, "I would like to read a few
sentences to you." And he opened the Bible and started reading the Sermon on
the Mount: "Blessed are the meek, for theirs is the Kingdom of God," and so
on and so forth.
Only a few sentences, and the old Master said, "Wait! Whosoever said this
was a Buddha! WHOSOEVER said this was a Buddha. No need to read further. I
have also experienced this. No need to read further. Yes, blessed are the
meek for theirs is the Kingdom of God. Look at me! It has happened to me!"
Now this poor missionary had come to convert. He had come to convert this
Christ into a Christian. He wanted to convert a Christ into a Christian! The
utter stupidity of it! But he could not understand yet.
He said, "Let me read the whole thing. You will be very impressed."
But the old man said, "There is no need to read it. Whosoever said it is a
Buddha. He knows, he knows as much as I know. We are the same. You look at
me!"
But the Christian was too much of a Christian; he went back with his Bible
thinking that this old man was crazy, "Calling himself Christ?" He was
thinking in terms of Jesus; he does not know the meaning of Christ.
Christ is the Western equivalent of Buddha, the Awakened One, the Blessed
One. That is actually the meaning of Christ. The meaning of Bhagwan is the
meaning of Christ -- the Blessed One.
And the last question:
Question 7
I HAVE FALLEN IN LOVE MANY TIMES IN MY LIFE, BUT IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN VERY
FRUSTRATING. WHAT IS THE CAUSE OF IT?
Love is almost an unknown phenomenon, so you must have fallen into
something else.... And if you fall into something else, sooner or later you
have to fall out of it. Love is a very rare experience; don't call it love.
It is your desire, it is your fantasy that you call love. It is your need,
it is your fear of being lonely. You feel lonely and empty and you want to
fill yourself with somebody else. And nobody can fill himself with somebody
else, so sooner or later, frustration.
Frustration is bound to happen to your so-called love. And then when you
fall in love, what do you really start doing? You start fantasizing,
expecting too much. Because you expect too much, too much frustration
follows.
This is something new in this age, and more so in the West than in the
East. The East has been very pragmatic about love, very realistic. Not much
frustration happens in the East because people never expect much out of it
-- so what frustration?
Marriage comes
first in the East. And then living together with a woman or man, slowly
slowly you start becoming friendly, you start liking each other, you start
helping each other, and a kind of love grows. But there is no romance in it,
hence no frustration.
In the West love has to happen first, and love drives you crazy. It is a
hormonal disease that you call love; it is something chemical. And in that
chemical impact, as if you are under a drug, stoned... Actually, it is that:
the drug has been released by your own hormones so you don't know it. When
you inject a drug, you know. It is a biological drug; nature has been using
it to propagate. Otherwise, just think -- if there were no intoxicant inside
you... just think for a moment that there is no intoxication with love, no
desire to propagate -- who will propagate? for what? The world would stop.
Nature has befooled you; it has put a built-in program in you, it triggers a
process of hormones in you, and suddenly you start seeing dreams and small
things start looking very great.
I have heard...
A lovely but rather flat-chested young woman visited a physician for her
periodic physical examination.
"Please remove your blouse," the doctor told her.
"Oh no," the young lady protested. "I just couldn't!"
"Come, come," the doctor replied. "Let us not make mountains out of
molehills."
But in love that is what happens -- people start making mountains out of
molehills. And then when frustration sets in, they start making molehills
out of mountains.
Everything looks beautiful when you are in that drugged state. That's why
in all the languages of the world the phrase is 'falling in' -- you fall
from your consciousness, you lose your consciousness, you are almost a
drunkard. Then an ordinary woman looks so beautiful, so angelic. An ordinary
man looks like Hercules. Everything looks so great and so big, and this is
nothing but a projection of your desire.
And sooner or later it will clash with reality -- and Hercules will come
down, and Cleopatra will come down. And then you are sitting face to face
with an ordinary man, an ordinary woman, wondering what you are doing there,
wondering how you got there. And if there are a few children also playing
around, then finished! Then just because of these children now you have to
be together. Hercules is dead, Cleopatra is dead; just two ordinary,
silly-looking people taking care of the children, because they have to be
educated. And they will do the same, sooner or later.
Your expectations are so great, hence the frustration.
Meditate over this. Go very very slowly.
The lady of the house called down to her butler, "Smithers, come up to my
bedroom, please."
When he came through the door, she said, "Now Smithers, the time has come.
Take off my shoes." So Smithers took off her shoes.
"Now take off my stockings." So he took off her stockings. "Now Smithers,
take off my dress." So he took off her dress.
"Now Smithers, take off my brassiere." So off comes her bra. "NOW Smithers,
take off my knickers, and if I ever catch you wearing my clothes again, you
will have to find yourself another job!"
Now this is what happens -- you were expecting, expecting, ex... and the
frustration!
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